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		<title>By: MetroCard Bonus Calculator</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-37143</link>
		<dc:creator>MetroCard Bonus Calculator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also try the original MetroCard Bonus Calculator at http://www.metrocardbonuscalculator.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also try the original MetroCard Bonus Calculator at <a href="http://www.metrocardbonuscalculator.com/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.metrocardbonuscalculator.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-36841</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new 15% bonus structure will probably put even more money in the MTA&#039;s pockets as it results in lots of spare change left on nyc subway riders metrocards. You can use this handy online calculator to compute an even balance on your metrocard: http://MetroCardCalculator.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new 15% bonus structure will probably put even more money in the MTA&#8217;s pockets as it results in lots of spare change left on nyc subway riders metrocards. You can use this handy online calculator to compute an even balance on your metrocard: <a href="http://MetroCardCalculator.com" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://MetroCardCalculator.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom McManus</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-14498</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pay me directly and I&#039;ll stop writing. Sort of like the guy with the bugle, he wont blow it in your ear if you give him money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay me directly and I&#8217;ll stop writing. Sort of like the guy with the bugle, he wont blow it in your ear if you give him money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-14428</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-14421</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d pay extra for my metrocard if they fired &quot;Tom McManus&quot;  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d pay extra for my metrocard if they fired &#8220;Tom McManus&#8221;  <img src='http://subwayblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-14362</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well considering they had ridership increase 15% the past 10 years, 4 years of budget surpluses, heck the L train has seen ridership increase nearly 50% in the past 5 years, and now there telling us they want to raise the fares, yet they are not raising service?

Why is it they can&#039;t allow the city to manage it&#039;s own MTA when the city generates 66% of the MTA&#039;s revenue?

Why is it that there is competition between bus and subway lines? After all wouldn&#039;t it make sense if there was an incentive between lines to compete for federal funding, and revenue which would make service better across the board?

Why not a fare cut? Look at express bus service in the outerboroughs where people are sitting in buses for 2,3 hours and paying more for less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well considering they had ridership increase 15% the past 10 years, 4 years of budget surpluses, heck the L train has seen ridership increase nearly 50% in the past 5 years, and now there telling us they want to raise the fares, yet they are not raising service?</p>
<p>Why is it they can&#8217;t allow the city to manage it&#8217;s own MTA when the city generates 66% of the MTA&#8217;s revenue?</p>
<p>Why is it that there is competition between bus and subway lines? After all wouldn&#8217;t it make sense if there was an incentive between lines to compete for federal funding, and revenue which would make service better across the board?</p>
<p>Why not a fare cut? Look at express bus service in the outerboroughs where people are sitting in buses for 2,3 hours and paying more for less?</p>
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		<title>By: daver</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13792</link>
		<dc:creator>daver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ahhh but you can get a $22.50 card. To prove it, I bought a $2.50 card tonight, just for kicks.</p>
<p>You can buy a card in just about any amount you want. It’s under the “other amount” option.&#8221;</p>
<p>Er, OK. How does the bonus dollars work then? Did it give you 20% for a $3 card? Weird.</p>
<p>Oh, and I vote for no fare hike too. And I also vote for not sticking it harder to the monthly folk in under to subsidize the dollar folk. However, any way you look at it, the monthly is going up a lower percentage than the dollar rate, regardless of which propsed amount they go with on the monthly. So I figure us monthly guys are getting a deal (comparatively, the bastards!) anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13776</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

I don&#039;t think you are the only one who votes no for a fare hike. I just think many of us expect it to go through regardless of our outcry. This should not stop us from hammering our points home which I have been adamant about lately. 

However unless someone drastically pulls the MTA&#039;s card &amp; sham, the fare hike is happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you are the only one who votes no for a fare hike. I just think many of us expect it to go through regardless of our outcry. This should not stop us from hammering our points home which I have been adamant about lately. </p>
<p>However unless someone drastically pulls the MTA&#8217;s card &amp; sham, the fare hike is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13761</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one that votes for NO FARE HIKE?</description>
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		<title>By: The SUBWAYblogger</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13758</link>
		<dc:creator>The SUBWAYblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daver:</p>
<blockquote><p>You can’t get a $22.50 card. $20 gets you a $24 card. So, you are going to end up with $1.50 on a card that you will have to recombine or recharge anyhow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahhh but you can get a $22.50 card. To prove it, I bought a $2.50 card tonight, just for kicks.  </p>
<p>You can buy a card in just about any amount you want.  It&#8217;s under the &#8220;other amount&#8221; option.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13751</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daver:

You don&#039;t explain why riders like myself, TSB, &amp; many others who use unlimited monthly cards have to foot the bill for others to ride cheaper.

The idea that we should foot the bill for others to ride at a cheaper cost is beyond ridiculous. Plus no matter the cost, a majority of riders have to ride at peak times &amp; have no say in the matter. 

Even the MTA expects only a small percentage to take advantage of $1.50 fares. In the end we should not have to foot the bill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daver:</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t explain why riders like myself, TSB, &amp; many others who use unlimited monthly cards have to foot the bill for others to ride cheaper.</p>
<p>The idea that we should foot the bill for others to ride at a cheaper cost is beyond ridiculous. Plus no matter the cost, a majority of riders have to ride at peak times &amp; have no say in the matter. </p>
<p>Even the MTA expects only a small percentage to take advantage of $1.50 fares. In the end we should not have to foot the bill!</p>
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		<title>By: daver</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13750</link>
		<dc:creator>daver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t get a $22.50 card. $20 gets you a $24 card. So, you are going to end up with $1.50 on a card that you will have to recombine or recharge anyhow. And besides, some of us have to take the dreaded X-buses and Air Trains which cost $5 and screw it all up as is already. Who is going to complaint that instead of 5 rides they got 6 2/3rds? That is a _good_ thing, more rides is better. Honestly, I would prefer to see a $2 fare and no change, but having it be $2.25 sometimes and $1.50 other times is way better than having it $2.25 all the time. It doesn&#039;t make any sense to complain about screwed up math, because you are going to get that anyhow with the fare increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t get a $22.50 card. $20 gets you a $24 card. So, you are going to end up with $1.50 on a card that you will have to recombine or recharge anyhow. And besides, some of us have to take the dreaded X-buses and Air Trains which cost $5 and screw it all up as is already. Who is going to complaint that instead of 5 rides they got 6 2/3rds? That is a _good_ thing, more rides is better. Honestly, I would prefer to see a $2 fare and no change, but having it be $2.25 sometimes and $1.50 other times is way better than having it $2.25 all the time. It doesn&#8217;t make any sense to complain about screwed up math, because you are going to get that anyhow with the fare increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Speaking Of Numbers&#8230;.. &#124; Transit Blogger</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13745</link>
		<dc:creator>Speaking Of Numbers&#8230;.. &#124; Transit Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first read about this article &amp; calculator in an entry written by The Subway Blogger. The calculator is merely nothing more than a table with a built in drop down menu. However [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first read about this article &#38; calculator in an entry written by The Subway Blogger. The calculator is merely nothing more than a table with a built in drop down menu. However [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NYCWD</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13743</link>
		<dc:creator>NYCWD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that math makes my head spin.

I miss tokens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that math makes my head spin.</p>
<p>I miss tokens.</p>
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		<title>By: The MTA will listen to your thoughts on the fare hike &#171; Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13733</link>
		<dc:creator>The MTA will listen to your thoughts on the fare hike &#171; Second Ave. Sagas &#124; Blogging the NYC Subways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the fare hike, The Post printed a nifty fare calculator — which, as SUBWAYblogger noted, is really just a table with a drop-down menu — that helps display the differences between the two fare [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The SUBWAYblogger</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13731</link>
		<dc:creator>The SUBWAYblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Quick, how many $2.25 rides can you get on a $10 Metrocard?&lt;/cite&gt;

True, but you can get 10 rides for $22.50, and know that no matter what, it is always going to be 10 rides.  That way you can just keep track of how many &quot;swipes&quot; you have left instead of the dollar value.

Why not just have us swipe our credit cards through the slot instead?  Wouldnt that just cut through most of the crap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Quick, how many $2.25 rides can you get on a $10 Metrocard?</cite></p>
<p>True, but you can get 10 rides for $22.50, and know that no matter what, it is always going to be 10 rides.  That way you can just keep track of how many &#8220;swipes&#8221; you have left instead of the dollar value.</p>
<p>Why not just have us swipe our credit cards through the slot instead?  Wouldnt that just cut through most of the crap?</p>
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		<title>By: digamma</title>
		<link>http://subwayblogger.com/2007/10/09/new-fare-options-not-fair/comment-page-1/#comment-13728</link>
		<dc:creator>digamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick, how many $2.25 rides can you get on a $10 Metrocard?

Off-peak fares are a good idea.  They&#039;ll induce more people to ride when there&#039;s more spare capacity, and they&#039;ll be good for the elderly.  PATH riders have been dealing with a decimal fare on their Metrocards for a while, and the sky hasn&#039;t fallen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick, how many $2.25 rides can you get on a $10 Metrocard?</p>
<p>Off-peak fares are a good idea.  They&#8217;ll induce more people to ride when there&#8217;s more spare capacity, and they&#8217;ll be good for the elderly.  PATH riders have been dealing with a decimal fare on their Metrocards for a while, and the sky hasn&#8217;t fallen.</p>
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